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An Interview with Bermondsey Street Bees

Published on 15th February 2019


When stockbroker Dale Gibson set up his first beehives on a Bermondsey Street rooftop in 2007, neither he or his partner Sarah Wyndham-Lewis could have predicted the experiences that lay ahead. Over a decade later, they reflect on the journey of their award-winning business and share thoughts on the crucial role of sustainable beekeeping in London.   Do you still think of beekeeping as a hobby? It started out as a hobby and has progressed into a mild obsession and a disruptive business! We’ve got a concept here that we think is unusual, which makes it easy to be passionate about. Sarah and I have developed experience over 30/40 years in the city and marketing sector, so we’re stepping into the bee, honey and consulting business as well as applying basic bee husbandry skills. We’re having a great time doing a lot of things we never anticipated doing. We’re very lucky to be working with so many different people who care about bees as much as we do – its helped us to develop what started as a hobby into a professional bee enterprise. Do you and the bees have a daily routine? The bees are variable, as they tend to do very little during the winter. The rule is that you have to have a reason to open up a bee hive, rather than just doing it on a curiosity basis.  We have schedules to inspect the bees, especially during the swarming season (when the first dandelion appears). The intensive period is between May/June where we’re on absolute peak duties, before things slow down after summer solstice when the queens egg laying rate starts to diminish. There are many things we can get on with in winter, processing the honey, bottling it, selling it, doing talks and making plans for new apiaries, but it’s different types of work at different times of the year.   “The rich history of bees in London is a wonderful thing, but we’re looking to ensure a rich future too.” What are the differences in how you practice urban beekeeping, to rural beekeeping? Aside from the logistic/ environmental differences, the benefits of keeping bees in London is 3 or 4 fold, firstly the temperature is 2 or 3 degrees higher than the surrounding countryside which means the plants are able to give nectar and to flower for longer. Also, because of people’s personal ambitions and tastes, we have a vast variety of flowers in gardens. Plus, there’s the benefit of inspired municipal planting, for example in Potters Fields Park. Ian Mould, the gardener puts in sequential planting so that the bees have something to eat all year round, he’s very observant and thoughtful about it. A particular focus and passion of ours is the creation of forage and ensuring that when we introduce more bees into a city like London, there will be sufficient creation of forage to to ensure our bees and the existing city bees will have enough to eat. That’s the primary responsibility of any farmer, sustainability. The rich history of bees in London is a wonderful thing, but we’re looking to ensure a rich future too. In terms of being a responsible beekeeper, what advice would you give local residents with an interest in bee-friendly planting?  Let’s start with some really broad brush strokes – anything blue or purple is good as the bee’s vision is acutely adjusted towards those sort of flowers. Think of your garden as if it’s something that’s going to bear fruit and  have flavours – herbs, fruit trees. We have a lovely damson tree on our allotment and herb garden here up on the roof. We always feel like there’s something for us to have, taste and enjoy the flavour of as well as the bees – all things can fit together and consciously bridge the gap between people and bees. Team London Bridge has done a fantastic job of developing green spaces in the area, projects like the Greenwood Theatre, the Druid Street wildflower meadow, the hanging baskets – it all helps! We have planting guides on our Bermondsey Bees website, great for rooftop plantings which have high wind and are prone to being quite arid. Does Bermondsey Street Bees honey have a signature taste? Every honey has its own terroir like a fine wine or olive oil, they’re all in their own batches. No two vintages will be the same. The honey is affected by the weather and the plants that thrive in different conditions. Ours has a clarity and a slight tang with a lift of mint in the final taste. It has a little twist of citrus (lime tree rather than actual citrus fruit), and that multi-floral complexity that London honey often has. We don’t heat the honey above the hive temperature, which is the opposite of super-heated, filtered and entirely denatured squeezable supermarket bottles. Each jar will always have its own personality, body and soul, that captures the essence of the surroundings and the year itself, and and we’re proud of that. “Each jar will always have its own personality, body and soul, that captures the essence of the surroundings and the year itself, and and we’re proud of that.”   What is your relationship with the local community? In cities, your door often opens straight onto the street: rather than a long row of trees leading up to a long drive, or a deep suburban garden with a hedge or wall around it. We just flow straight onto the street and straight into the community. For the last 10 years, we’ve been intimately associated with Bermondsey Street, whether that’s previously being secretary of BSAP (Bermondsey Street Area Partnership) or judging a dog show at Bermondsey Street Festival! We always use local suppliers for our products, like French Flint, the local glass guy by Leathermarket or collaborating with local brewery Hiver Beers who we’re collaborating with on selling honey beer at a retail space in Maltby Street market. We’ve also been quite successful in getting out into the community where we’ve been planting in St Mary Magdalen Church Yard with a large grant from Southwark’s ‘Cleaner Greener Safer’ fund. We planted an edible garden in Leathermarket gardens with the help of BOST (Bankside Open Spaces Trust) and we’re currently working with Team London Bridge and Southwark Council to put together a green roof with the aid of local artist Austin Emery and Leathermarket JMB. These joint ventures from very local enterprising focusing on a single outcome can be very powerful, the help we’ve had from the larger organisations as small individuals has been enormously encouraging. We feel fortunate to be in the middle of an environment where we had cooperation and collaboration across the board. You mentioned Sarah’s background in marketing, what is Sarah’s role in Bermondsey Street Bees? Dale: She’s my partner… Sarah: Whether I like it or not! It’s crept up on me somehow. I do branding, marketing, design, product development, and project management. I also manage the retail and wholesale sales. Dale: Sarah is also the loony project prevention officer. I’m very keen on embarking on mad projects, and Sarah is very keen on not allowing me to do that! Sarah: There’s a great saying from someone I used to work with, he said ‘there’s a very big difference between starting a business and being busy fools’. We try to keep the business progressive, moving forward, taking people with us on a journey. This is a big learning curve because of all the sustainability issues. My parents were farmers so I do have that background of using the land and being respectful to creatures, but you start applying that to urban beekeeping and you suddenly realise how fragile the urban economy is for a bee or for a small creature. At one point I questioned, why should we expect to have bees in London? Is it reasonable for Londoners to expect to have bees? Sarah: There are actually lots of answers. One is- why shouldn’t Londoners have local honey? Bees do a great job pollinating people’s allotments, parks and gardens, and by pollinating, they’re also feeding the birds. When the seeds and fruits are properly pollinated, the trees and bushes can be more productive, so there’s an entire eco-structure being supported by the act of keeping bees and feeding them. It’s all very delicate and sensitive, and one disruptive factor, like taking away some green space and building on it can make a tremendous difference. Dale: People have got the message that a dog isn’t for Christmas, but a beehive isn’t just for decorative purposes either! We want to raise the standard to this becomes the norm for how people take care of bees, and for it to become the next step in sustainable beekeeping.   Eddie the pug. Sarah also founded Holly & Lil, the canine fashion boutique which previously shared the ground floor of Bermondsey Street Bees HQ What’s next? We’ve got some great projects coming up, we’ve recently opened a honey library and prep kitchen which is specifically designed for our commercial clients for chefs to come in, recognise an environment which they’re familiar with and come and taste and talk about honey as a key ingredient in cooking. We think that’s going to be our target market so we want that to the focus of for the particular venue. We’re also opening up in Hiver Beers arch in Maltby Street, where we’ll have a small retail concession, which will hopefully give us some sort of visibility. Sarah: We’re currently doing something special with the Shangri La at The Shard. We designed a unique honeycomb stand inspired by The Shard for hotel breakfast tables – and Shangri La bought the very first one. We’ve also organised a supply chain for them with one of our partner beekeepers. It’s very artisanal: He went into his fields in the depths of the country – and set up some hives to make honey exclusively for the Shangri La. It’s just fantastically natural and straightforward…. I love the idea that visitors from all over the world are getting to taste a fine, raw English honey, and it’s presented in such a glamorous way! This interview is from the 2016 AtLondonBridge archives  You can sneak a glimpse into the world of Bermondsey Street Bees in this episode of BBC’s Inside Out London. Featured from 21 minutes. Find out more here.

An Interview with London Bridge British Transport Police

Published on 27th July 2017

We speak to Inspector Dominique Ionnaou and Sergeant Paul Threadgold from the British Transport Police (BTP) about their work at London Bridge station. Inspector Ionnaou has worked for the BTP for 13 years, coming from a Stakeholder Liaison Role on the underground with Transport for London. Her desire to return to a frontline policing role brought her to London Bridge station, where she has been an Inspector since 2016.     Firstly, how do the British Transport Police differ from the Metropolitan police?  DI: We’re are not funded by the Home Office, we are funded by Network Rail and train operating companies. We have all the same police powers as the Metropolitan Police plus additional railway-related authority applicable to railway bylaws and specific railway related offences. Our jurisdiction is train stations, railway tracks and anything railway related.   How big is the team at London Bridge station/ what’s a typical schedule for the day? DI: Our team is made up of over 30 people. The day to day schedule varies; mine will be centered around stakeholder meetings, crime and investigation management and event policing. PT: Generally, I’ll check if there’s anything to handover and brief the team. If there’s anything that needs to be dealt with, we’ll deploy officers as needed. The officers then go straight out into the station during peak times for high visibility patrols, before they return and get their patrol instructions for the day. On a late shift we have ‘Op Shepherd’ patrols which are late night patrols for people getting the train home after drinking and are perhaps a bit rowdy on the trains out of London Bridge, so we’re essentially shepherding them home. An officer shouldn’t be conducting policing based around targets – it should be all encompassing.   What are your priorities as London Bridge Station Commander? DI: From the 1st April we’ve set new policing priorities. Moving away from figures and focusing on the general concept of doing the right thing. An officer shouldn’t be conducting policing based around targets – it should be all encompassing.  The new model ‘Threat, Risk and Harm’ encourages us to focus on what’s important to our community and our stakeholders. Things like reducing crime, improving conditions for the community and safeguarding rail staff. PT: An operation specific example would be an issue we had on the 149 bus, which arrives at London Bridge. Homeless people tend to use the bus to sleep on –  rather than the approach being ‘get off the bus’, we’ve got two officers working with TfL and a team from Outreach workers so that when the buses arrive, a team will be on hand to give these people assistance, rather than just displacing them. DI: We also work closely with the railways to make sure the trains are running safely, securely and on time. Any crime related disruption to the train services from graffiti to trespassing can have a major impact, asides from the monetary implications, our focus is to make sure that the people travelling on those trains can get to where they’re going: we appreciate that the journey might be really important for them. It’s part of my job to return my team, the railway station and travelling public to a state of normality following horrendous events like this.   What’s the most memorable incident you’ve experienced at the station so far? PT: We had a CPR incident where a gentleman on the Jubilee line went into cardiac arrest on the train. We had to use the defibrillator and assist in giving CPR whilst supervising an emergency helicopter landing to take him to hospital. Every single staff member is trained in using the defibrillators, but we were very lucky in this case as there was an off duty doctor in the carriage. Thankfully, he seemed to be stable when he left but unfortunately we don’t get updates once they leave the station due to data protection. DI: For me it has been the last few weeks following the London Bridge terrorism attack, where one of my officers PC Wayne Marques was seriously injured.  It’s part of my job to return my team, the railway station and travelling public to a state of normality following horrendous events.  It was particularly challenging on this occasion as it was so close to home, and I could see first-hand the impact on my officers and my community.  The focus of our work has been on reassuring the public, and the outpouring of support we have received has been overwhelming.   How do you find the reaction is normally to BTP?  DI: Generally, we have a positive reaction.  There will always be a small minority that we have negative reactions from however they are just that. A minority. Certainly over the last 10 years our organisation has become one of the highest quality: We have excpetional officer standards, equipment and processes: we are specialists in what we do. I think the public appreciate what we’re doing and we’ve got strong relationships with our stakeholders and staff in the station.   London Bridge Station is due for completion in 2018. With 80 retailers and a concourse bigger than Wembley Stadium pitch, how will this present new challenges for BTP? PT: Yes we’ve been told the concourse will be the largest in Europe! Obviously the increase in retail is going to have a big impact. At the moment we’re monitoring new shop openings and making sure there’s an officer ready to go in on day one and introduce our services and see what the shop needs. We also try and approach businesses beforehand, to give them support with how they might determine the design and layout of their stores to minimize shoplifting.   Is your team going to increase? DI: We’ve just had a recent increase in officers as a result of a Demand Review (which places our officers in the right places at the right times to meet calls for service). Although our officers are dealing with and responding to incidents every day, my aim is that we remain a very low crime environment. The good work my team do in regards to high visibility patrolling, crime prevention advice and public engagement will discourage criminals from operating on our station. I equate it to when the licensing hours changed for the pubs… The Night Tube doesn’t actually encourage people to change their behaviour, it gives them more options to get home safely.   Your previous role involved heading the plans for the introduction of the Night Tube, which launched in August last year. Do you think the impact of the service has lived up to expectations? DI: Overall, we didn’t expect an increase in crime and we didn’t anticipate a negative impact on the community; we saw it as a positive. The main problems that arose prior to the night-tube were people who’d be out enjoying the area at night (maybe a little too much!), and then getting frustrated when they couldn’t get home.  This is often when we’d be faced with fights and disruptive behavior. I equate it to when the licensing hours changed for the pubs: everyone thought it was going to be chaos with everyone out drinking all night – that wasn’t the case. The Night Tube doesn’t actually encourage people to change their behavior, it gives them more options to get home safely. PT: The great thing is we haven’t got hundreds of people leaving the pubs at midnight and getting on the tube anymore, it’s staggered. DI:  Some residents near the stations were concerned with an increase in litter and noise, so myself and Tfl went out to Borough engagement meetings and set up processes for early reporting and working together to nip any problems in the bud. It’s working well and I hope it continues.   Some of the station occupiers are linked via a Team London Bridge-funded radio system – how useful have these radios been in linking businesses to BTP? PT: We find they work very well when they’re used correctly. Especially when it comes to shoplifters. It saves so much time – with a regular call it could take up to 6-7 mins for an officer to reach the scene, whereas with the radio it’s almost an immediate response.   Do you have any advice any local businesses using the radios? PT: It takes that bit of practice to pick up radio speak. When a member of the public is using a radio they’re not familiar with in a panicked situation, the instinct might be to shout for help, but we need to know who they are, where they are and what’s happened. DI: There’s 3 things you need to focus on Think, Pause, Speak. Think about what you want to say, Pause after pressing the button (sometimes radio transmissions are cut off at the beginning), Speak directly and try to communicate a clear concise message about what the issue is and what you need.  This helps us deploy the correct type, and correct number of resources to assist.   Are there any specific campaigns relevant to the London Bridge area at the moment?  DI: We have a force wide campaign which is ‘Report it to Stop it’. It’s a campaign we’ve recently re-launched around sexual offending on the railway network, encouraging people to report any type of offending or suspicious behavior to us. We found people were worried they wouldn’t be taken seriously, which needs to stop. I would encourage people to take a few minutes to view our video online because if you report these offenses to BTP you will be believed, you will be taken seriously and we will do all we can to bring offenders to justice.  It’s a campaign I’m particularly passionate about. We’ve also had some joint communication with the MET about some people posing as police officers in the area. They actually tend to target tourists, but we rely on the local community to be our eyes and ears. They’re approaching tourists, searching them and removing valuable items from them.   Any final advice for the community?  PT: Theft. Be aware of your surroundings – put your phone in your inside pocket, don’t leave your bags or personal items on a seat of the train and go wandering off. It’s nice to be trusting but we see the other side of it. Keep your belongings safe.   http://www.btp.police.uk